Here’s nearly 25 minutes of Ian Fleming interviewing Raymond Chandler in 1958. It starts like this:
Fleming: Well, the first thing, really, is to define what we’re supposed to be talking about. I think the title of what we’re supposed to be talking about is English and American thrillers. What is a thriller? To my mind of course, you don’t write thrillers and I do.
Chandler: I do too.
F: I don’t call yours thrillers. Yours are novels.
C: A lot of people call them thrillers.
F: I know. I think it’s wrong.